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Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:26:23 -
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Since there are are players that want to rebalance all defenseless ships in high sec I have a possible solution to this.
If CCP choose to listen to the ganker side of EVE they should also introduce a stackable GCC that should work like the jump fatigue mechanic. Maybe not exactly like the fatigue counter but it should give stackable punishment so gankers need to pick their victim instead of mass ganking as they do now. It's not fair that a ganker can travel high sec in his/her pod if sec status is -10 with no punishment at all. It's not fair that it pays that much to be a criminal and gank, die, repeat infinite since repeated criminal activity doesn't have any form of impact on the criminal player.
So some form of stackable GCC is needed to balance the criminals advantage they have today. Right now the defender is always the last part to pull the trigger since Concord protects criminal in an unfair way.
So if defenseless ships are being rebalanced this stackable is a good rebalance to the life of being a criminal in EVE.
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Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 22:54:28 -
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Yes, try to get me angry and see if I really get angry? That just shows what ppl that plays EVE.
But on topic.
Why is it fair that -10 sec stat can travel freely in pod without Concord or police to intercept? Why is it fair that repeated criminal behaviour wihtin a time frame is not stacked together?
It's really to easy today to be a criminal, you have nothing that force you to select your target before gank. You can mass gank and that's wrong. If you want to mass gank, go to null or something. In high sec it should be harder for mass ganks that are repeated over and over again with the same character etc.
As soon as someone try to talk about a problem that exists that gives gankers an unfair advantage they puke all over their computers.
Why don't you want a fair game on booth parts? What are you afraid of if you need to think about the victim before a gank? Yes, you can't gank all day long and why should you be able to do that when in high sec?
If there is a problem with tanked mining ships that you so eager want to nerf why shouldn't the criminal GCC have a look? |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:26:56 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Freaking news flash:
Criminal activity in EVE is a type of gameplay, it is intended for people to be able to do it. It is not an actual crime.
If the point was for people to not engage in criminal activity CCP could trivially remove the ability of players to shoot eachother in whatever type of place they wanted to. Also seeing as you clearly have no god damned idea how gankers actually behave I suggest trying "mass ganking" random targets and seeing how profitable that actually is.
So you really think that just because they allow criminal activity as a part of the game it should never change at all? I think boot sides need a constant look at all mechanics etc.
As long as one part tries to keep the other part silent there will be no fair game play. I listen all kind of sides in EVE so this was just a suggestion from me. |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:30:39 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Fenix Neutrino wrote:Yes, try to get me angry and see if I really get angry? That just shows what ppl that plays EVE. You are obviously already angry, we don't need to try. All this shows is in EVE there are the players that whine and the players that laugh at them. You are whining we are laughing at you. As has been suggested go try to gank and come back and tell us how easy it is.
That's good ;) Keep laughing and we might get a better world.
I'm not a criminal so that will never happen.
And still, it was just a suggestion and nothing else so keep the whining to yourself ;) |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:37:08 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Fenix Neutrino wrote:it was just a suggestion Based off your grossly ignorant misrepresentation of reality. Learn how the mechanics work before you pass judgement. If you took the time to learn the mechanics you would understand it is balanced, more so now than ever.
And it's not that's why I came with that suggestion. |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:49:19 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:The game has over the years constantly changed in favor of harsher and harsher penalties for gankers. The penalties that exist now are more severe than they have ever been and concord has always gotten more and more powerful, in fact it's literally against the rules to not be killed by them.
There aren't even two sides to it, ganking has never gotten buffed, concord hasn't evern had its response times increased or capabilities reduced, just more penalties, more effective concord, shorter response times, nowadays you're even magically prevented from warping while GCC. Ganking for profit is much, much more difficult and expensive than it was even a few years ago.
Gankers have endured more direct nerfs to their playstyle than any other group of players in the game, the fact that they continue to make a profit in spite of that is a testament to their dedication and you don't find them endlessly whining on the forums to get the game changed to penalize other players because they dislike their gameplay style.
Those people are freaking saints. They take an endless shitting on from CCP and rather than complaining about it they adapt and soldier on, all the while other people who don't respect their right to play the game how they please petition CCP to make the game worse for the gankers.
Shove off, and take your desire to have other people arbitrarily punished for playing the game in a way you don't like back under whatever rocked you crawled from under.
Since I don't even stay in high sec you can crawl back under the same rock as me ;)
Don't gankers whine?
There is a thread about Skiffs being to hard to kill for a solo ganker etc so yes they whine when they don't get what they want.
But we stop here and now.
I now know that you don't like the stacked GCC. |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.18 23:51:37 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Fenix Neutrino wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Fenix Neutrino wrote:it was just a suggestion Based off your grossly ignorant misrepresentation of reality. Learn how the mechanics work before you pass judgement. If you took the time to learn the mechanics you would understand it is balanced, more so now than ever. And it's not that's why I came with that suggestion. How is it not balanced? You can't just turn round and say it's not balanced without having a reasonable explanation of why you feel that way. As it is we have your opinion that " it's not fair"....
If you are so eager to PvP just move to null or something.
But as I just said.
I get the point, you don't like the stacked GCC so we stop here and now. |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:19:09 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:You misunderstand where I stand, I don't do ship to ship PvP, I mine, I run missions, I do a little exploration, I trade on the markets, in short I am a bear.
I understand that others out there may decide that they'd like to make me explode, I do my best to deter them, I know who they are, understand what they do and who they target.
I don't go afk, I don't use AP, I actually tank my haulers, expensive stuff gets farmed out to RF or PushX with the right collateral, I use a Procurer or a Skiff to mine. Unless I'm the only prey in the system most gankers will take the easier target.
TL;DR I'm a bear, I make sure that I'm harder to kill than the bear next to me. Therein is the balance, I use the options available to me and I'm hard to kill easily.
Sorry for that, thanks for explaining your position.
It's hard to balance a game and make all players happy.
Fly safe!
And to everyone else. I didn't really want to lit the flame as you might have thought. I just gave a suggestion that you didn't like, that's all.
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Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.19 00:20:13 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:I understand that others out there may decide that they'd like to make me explode, I do my best to deter them, I know who they are, understand what they do and who they target. Knowledge tank, best tank.
That's a truth that will never change anywhere.
Fly safe or unsafe if you are on that part ;) |

Fenix Neutrino
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Posted - 2014.11.19 06:29:55 -
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As I said earlier, we stop here and now. I didn't suggest this to start a fire, nor to stop gankers etc. I know you don't like the idea.
Fly safe or unsafe if you like ;-)
Last post in this thread, at least from me. |
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